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Monday, January 25, 2010

Boston comment on Gillenwater appeal

This comment is from McKinley Boston on Friday. I've been hounding folks on Troy's status before each game.

At this point, we're waiting to hear. I've worked with the NCAA long enough and in various capacities to know you're better off waiting. It's a bureaucracy all in its own. Every time they make a decision that favors student athletes, they set a precedent and they're reluctant to set that. They're extremely careful as to how they manage that appeal process.

There was one point on Friday where I heard Gillenwater's return looked promising which is why I wanted to talk to Boston. My understanding is that the NCAA keeps requesting information from NMSU, which I guess is reason for hope

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

One can only hope. Has Gillenwater been allowed to workout with the team. If he comes back, will he be in playing shape?

Anonymous said...

how in the world does the NCAA allow a kid to play when he hasn't passed enough credit hours with the grade point average and degree % that was put in place by the NCAA? Does this not sound strange to anyone? Sure the NCAA has its issues, but this doesn't sound right at all. If they allow this, it opens the door for many many to follow. Not so sure they will do that and why would they? Go to class, act interested, try to do well and most instructors in the country will give you the benefit of the doubt. no question. stay tuned.

Jason Groves said...

Anon 2:42,
Gillenwater has practiced with the team the entire season so should he return, I would imagine he would be inserted right away, similar to McKines. Anon 4:43, my initial reaction exactly

Anonymous said...

just pass your frigging classes and have good attendance and then NMSU will not have to file appeals with the NCAA,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Pretty Friggin simple!!!!!!!!




dm

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"...how in the world does the NCAA allow a kid to play when he hasn't passed enough credit hours with the grade point average and degree % that was put in place by the NCAA?..."

Exactly why it won't happen. I wish Boston would be a little more interested in the student side of "student-athlete."

Anonymous said...

The appeal probably has something to do with the emotional or mental state of a player which may, or may not, have affected his ability to pass the required credit hours. This happens folks. I wouldn't be surprised if he plays this season. I hope he does...

Anonymous said...

Do we know what he is appealing? Can we assume he is proposing to the ncaa that he did meet the requirements, as opposed to asking for an exception to them?

Anonymous said...

Dont know if it really matters or not but I saw Troy along with Mr. Lewis at the Financial Aid office today. Maybe its a stupid question but how does being ineligible affect his scholarschip and financial aid situation? I know that if you dont have a certain GPA you lose scholarships and aid, so would them being there submtting documents have anything to do with this whole appeal process?

Gsus

Jason Groves said...

Gsus, I think that Troy's scholarship situation will be ironed out once we find out what the NCAA says or doesn't say. Anon 10:57 Nobody at NMSU will talk about Troy's specific situation on the record. I hope to one day ask Troy myself to shed some light on what exactly it was that kept him off the court thus far

Anonymous said...

We don't know whether Troy doesn't have the 2.00 GPA he needs, it can be that he doesn't have the number of credit hours that NCAA requires for him to be eligible. If GPA is not the problem then he may be eligible for financial aid (outside of an athletic scholarship).

IndyAg said...

Anon 4:52 may have hit it on the head. I don't have any information in this case, so please take this for what it is worth, which is pure speculation. There are a few different aspects to a players eligibility and GPA is just one of them. Sometimes, players can get into a bind if they change majors because of the requirement to be X% complete with your major area coursework by the end of your sophomore year. IF (and I have no idea if he did) he were to switch majors for some reason, he may or may not have met this requirement, even though he may have passed his classes.

There are just so many ways a player can be deemed ineligible and we (myself included at times) immediately start thinking the player in question just didn't go to class, or just doesn't care. Again, not saying that isn't the case here, but there are other ways a player may be deemed ineligible by the NCAA, but was still working hard in classes.

Regardless, if the AGGIES don't get Gillenwater back, those that are eligible deserve some support, and I think we have a team that the community can be proud of. They are working hard, and playing pretty well as of late. It's also a team that I believe will compete for the top spot in the WAC even without Troy, although you can't deny what Troy brings on the court. He would be a big boost if he can get eligible.

GO AGGIES!!!

Anonymous said...

I can't imagine the NCAA propping this door open for many many others to pass through. Makes no sense to do. It also makes no sense that the NMSU Administration is trying this appeal. What do they stand for? Is it all about winning a freaking game? This teaches this kid and all others nothing. How about recruiting some real "student-athletes"? Better yet, why don't we fans stop attending these games until they do?

Anonymous said...

Anon 5:09
I agree with you 100% and I wish there were more Aggie fans like you. Let's focus on what we have and enjoy it because the Aggies are playing pretty good ball. I'm so tired of all the negativity on these blogs and assumptions based on nothing but speculation. Thanks for the post.

Anonymous said...

Maybe the problem is not that he switched majors but took to long to declare a major. According to nmstatesports he's listed as undeclared. Having already redshirted(don't know if that could have been an option) what happens if he isn't eligible does he just lose the whole year?