tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post8822828951337904007..comments2023-03-22T09:16:14.682-06:00Comments on Basketball Diaries: It's getting roughJason Groveshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13865320061941648252noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-60633678014149451692009-12-05T18:44:16.216-07:002009-12-05T18:44:16.216-07:00Even though all we talk about is how bad the Aggie...Even though all we talk about is how bad the Aggies are and how Menzies should be out as head coach, I'm still very excited about tonights game against UNM. It's still early and we have good players. Lets back these guys. Yes we were spoiled with Reggie, Henson, and McCarthy, but we should still support this group. Most communities and Universities don't have a rich tradition for college basketball. We still have to represent the team and come out to the games. You think the fans at Utah St. would stop showing up if their team has a bad start to the season? Doubt it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-42721362704248762502009-12-05T18:04:48.925-07:002009-12-05T18:04:48.925-07:00JG
Aside from agreement that our basketball coach...JG<br /><br />Aside from agreement that our basketball coach is a nice guy, but he's just not very good at getting a basketball team to play well together... I think you make a really significant point about Menzies for the first time placing responsibility on himself. It's certainly the first time in three seasons that I've heard those words.<br /><br />Although it's still being interspersed with generalities of the solution being the team playing harder instead of specifics. And, we're still gonna hear that its all about the WAC season, as if some of us have forgotten to aspire at an at-large bid with pre-conference wins as well as our desire to beat our rivals. But, it is a start.<br /><br />I'm not sure Boston will have the courage to fire him after the season and acknowledge his hiring mistake. But, if Menzies continues to flame out this season, maybe he resigns?chileronoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-1779365791829352932009-12-05T09:09:16.068-07:002009-12-05T09:09:16.068-07:00"Fordham fires coach Whittenburg after 1-4 st..."Fordham fires coach Whittenburg after 1-4 start" ESPN.com <br /><br />Yeah anything is possible. Pay this year out and let one of the assistants takeover!!!! NMSU take notes cause after tonight this may be the Straw that breaks the Camels back!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-23583744674340531342009-12-05T07:35:03.714-07:002009-12-05T07:35:03.714-07:00Firemenzies.com Marvin needs to step down. N...Firemenzies.com Marvin needs to step down. NMSU has given him so many resources to win, new practice court and hired his former boss to help him we should have seen this coming.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-6307125221580689162009-12-04T06:07:38.349-07:002009-12-04T06:07:38.349-07:00Maybe we can get Darren Spence to coach both the m...Maybe we can get Darren Spence to coach both the men and women BB teams?<br />At least Spence's teams play hard, are fundamentally sound and usually puts them in position where the kids can make plays.<br /><br />C'mon, Spence how about double dipping for us?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-19829211391056072092009-12-03T18:12:08.130-07:002009-12-03T18:12:08.130-07:00Gordo and Lumpkins have done nothing but sucked th...Gordo and Lumpkins have done nothing but sucked this season. They should both transfer!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!! GO LOBOS!!!!!!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-77217262850424762762009-12-03T17:15:57.876-07:002009-12-03T17:15:57.876-07:00Just looked at Hauser and I tend to agree with him...Just looked at Hauser and I tend to agree with him, especially if Hauser was as involved with as much of the motivating and play calling while he was here. The team that he helps coach now is 5-2. Why not give him a shot? His coaching cant be worse than Menzies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-64445147817226971392009-12-03T16:29:50.681-07:002009-12-03T16:29:50.681-07:00Anon 2:06
I never made a point about being a seco...Anon 2:06<br /><br />I never made a point about being a second chance and all you have to do is go back to two years ago. Hatila was not able to play games because of academics so Iti stepped up. That didnt give him the starting role the rest of the season or give him more minutes than Hatila. Why? Because even though Iti took care of business in the classroom Hatila was the better player. Like I said, its not fair but thats the way it is. And are you kidding me? Of course the team will be better with Wen and Gillenwater. Wen was only the leading rebounder in the WAC last season but you're , Gordo and Lumpkins have taken care of that right? Gillenwater has to improve his game a lot from last season but I highly doubt anyone would take Gordo or Lumpkins over him with the way they have been playing. Im sure Menzies wont.<br /><br />GSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-44694518881852923232009-12-03T15:06:14.693-07:002009-12-03T15:06:14.693-07:00If we have McKines and/or Gillenwater back, is the...If we have McKines and/or Gillenwater back, is the team really going to be that much better? It seems to me that we are relying on two players to make a miracle happen. After all Menzies will still be the head coach with no game plan. Not to mention that we are yet to see if all other players will remain eligible after the fall semester. <br /><br />As for whether TG and WM should start, my answer is no. I don't care if this is athletics and not academics. You can't have athletics without academics. if you don't take care of academics then I don't want to see you playing. You can't be a leader if you fail yourself. We have too many off the court issues with basketball players already. Both Gillenwater and McKines were given a second chance at NMSU--neither one of them would be even here if they were going to be eligible at the schools they originally selected. So please don't come to me with the whole second chance excuse and it's athletics and not academics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-86713179935858303682009-12-03T14:18:06.656-07:002009-12-03T14:18:06.656-07:00It is funny to me that everybody is jumping on the...It is funny to me that everybody is jumping on the "Fire Menzies" bandwagon, when some of us saw this coming when he was hired. #1. No school hired him to be a HEAD COACH for 25 years ... #2. He took one of the best teams we've had EVER, which should have made the NCAA tourney, and coached them out of that chance. That team had Justin Hawkins, Fred Peete, Hatila Passos, Martin Iti, J.Gibson, Wendell McKines, Herb Pope and JY (albeit the last half of the season). Each of the first 4 are playing professional now while it looks like Herb Pope will be a 1st round pick in this June's draft (look at his stats and quotes from his coach at Seton Hall).<br />I'm so sick of losing from football that I can't even watch our games now because of the frustration; combination is nice talent with JY, Laroche and Gibson and HORRIBLE HORRIBLE coaching.<br /><br />Dr. Boston, do we need to purchase a billboard near University stating "Dr. Boston, please replace Menzies with a competent and motivation coach ala ................. Reggie Theus.<br /><br />I, for one, would love to see Gus Hauser back as the head coach here. I realize has 'relatively' low experience in the coaching bizz, but he is definitely and up-and-coming coach; he is intelligent, a great role-model for the players, a motivator and he commands respect; finally, when he was here with Theus, HE WAS THE ONE CALLING MOST OF THE PLAYS; drawing up plays, explaining plays, motivating players, etc. His enthusiasm during games and practice were exceptional and it was contagious to the team; which is what this team needs desperately in order to be successful.<br />Next year, if Menzies is still the head coach, it is going to be bleak to say the least. We have the possibility of JY leaving for the NBA, and some players exploring transfer options. We have zero big-time recruits coming in; only partial academic qualifiers from Stone-ridge Prep. <br /><br />Look Hauser up: <br /><br />http://www.goccusports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/hauser_gus00.html<br /><br />Take a minute to look at his qualifications. Another plus is that he would not break NMSU's bank.<br /><br />Here are some other young up-and-coming coaches who were given chances.<br />Brad Stevens; Butler University, age 32, 30 when hired.<br />Dan Fife; IPFW 30, 26 when hired.<br />Jeff Capel; Virginia Commonwealth, 30 when hired.Aggie007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-65842730837601907262009-12-03T14:10:55.241-07:002009-12-03T14:10:55.241-07:00Anon 5:27,
Please dont try to make an argument th...Anon 5:27,<br /><br />Please dont try to make an argument that because Wen and Gillenwater failed they shouldnt start in place of Gordo and Lumpkins because they didnt. This is sports not academics and as much as you want things to be fair their not. Results in the court are far more important than results in the classroom. If that wasnt the case then why is everyone here asking if Gillenwater and Wen coming back? I havent seen anyone but you come out and say that they should earn their spot. The general attitue to me seems that as soon as Wen is back he is replacing Lumpkins. People want to win and winning means putting your best players out there. If winning didnt matter Weis would still be coaching at Notre Dame. I agree with you that its not fair to Gordo and Lumpkins but they are not better than Wen and Gillenwater. That will always win until the player is kicked out of the program for too many issues.<br /><br />GSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-72338202954092057842009-12-03T05:10:27.734-07:002009-12-03T05:10:27.734-07:00OK, everyone knows that Menzies is a terrible coac...OK, everyone knows that Menzies is a terrible coach but, he was brought in because he can recruit.<br /><br />Well, almost all of his recruit are in-eligible or have problems with the NCAA clearinghouse.<br />Why bring them in if they can't get on the court?<br /><br />I can't believe I'm saying this but, I hope we lose the rest of the schedule just so Menzies can get the axe.<br />Sorry guys but, I'd rather my losses now, rather than later.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-1391157770182762952009-12-02T23:44:18.714-07:002009-12-02T23:44:18.714-07:00JG, have you heard anything about McKines, and Gil...JG, have you heard anything about McKines, and Gillenwater on pace to become eligible?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-61988697031330939872009-12-02T23:24:52.090-07:002009-12-02T23:24:52.090-07:00Marvin Menzies - nice guy, miserable coach
Our pl...Marvin Menzies - nice guy, miserable coach<br /><br />Our players, some of whom have experienced success with other coaches who don't believe losing is an acceptable outcome, deserve much better than this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-60510425403778962032009-12-02T23:20:25.813-07:002009-12-02T23:20:25.813-07:00Every post game interview with Menzies includes a ...Every post game interview with Menzies includes a comment about watching the tape and seeing what needs to be changed. He might want to pay attention during the game and do some actual coaching instead of posturing for the fans by repeatedly demonstrating to players how to post up and guard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-60675360930265307732009-12-02T23:12:48.773-07:002009-12-02T23:12:48.773-07:00What a shame that our talented players' spirit...What a shame that our talented players' spirits have been reigned in by their passionless coach. Menzies' "losing is a learning experience" mentality has got to go. Mild Mannered Marvin should look into vacancies for Life Coaches in the Social Work Department...he certainly isn't cutting it as a basketball coach.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-23351424896801037722009-12-02T22:36:25.961-07:002009-12-02T22:36:25.961-07:00December 2, 2009 6:55 PM
Please don’t blame anyon...December 2, 2009 6:55 PM <br />Please don’t blame anyone but the players for not going to place. Its not the academic staff's ob to drag players from their bed to their classes. Sign up for that job and you can play nanny and care giver it you want. <br /><br />I never thought Menzies should have been hired in the first place. If you read his bio where does it state that he played basketball anywhere? He may be able to sell the dead beat players on coming to NMSU but he cant coach worth a lick. Just ask the player and they will tell you. I did and the one player said that MM is the worst coach he ever had and wants to transfer next season.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-58860697492964056392009-12-02T21:43:17.160-07:002009-12-02T21:43:17.160-07:00call 646*1211 and be heard!!!!!call 646*1211 and be heard!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-54858667297921016792009-12-02T20:49:37.791-07:002009-12-02T20:49:37.791-07:00Everything you guys are saying now I've been s...Everything you guys are saying now I've been saying since this blog was started...and I got crucified for it...Menzies should have never been hired....I told you so, told you so, told you so....it's about time all of you on here see that Menzies is a lousy coach.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-31726438336163930332009-12-02T19:55:47.883-07:002009-12-02T19:55:47.883-07:00I agree as well with the rest of the everyone that...I agree as well with the rest of the everyone that has posted before me. Additionally how in today's NCAA athletic world with tutors, mentors, grad assistants assigned to make sure that athletes attend class do two players become academically ineligible? How did this happen? Somebody's head should roll. And yes one more failure under Menzies watch....Please Santa bring me a competitive mens basketball team...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-57624043735226449402009-12-02T18:27:11.914-07:002009-12-02T18:27:11.914-07:00Anon 10:12, so Lumpkins and Gordo should be benche...Anon 10:12, so Lumpkins and Gordo should be benched and have Gillenwater and McKines start? Why? The last two proved they don't care about the team at all when they got themselves ineligible. What messages does this send to the rest of the team if you start TG and WM immediately?<br /><br /> While at it, why not bench JY and JG--it's not like either one of them played well last night? They both play selfish show-off basketball. Lumpkins and Gordo did not lost this game. We have no head coach, that's the real problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-35620528724572616822009-12-02T16:16:09.809-07:002009-12-02T16:16:09.809-07:00I think it is interesting that even in the Aggies&...I think it is interesting that even in the Aggies' terrible 6-24 season in 2004-2005, we still put up a better fight against an NCAA UTEP team led by Fili Rivera. It is pathetic that a team loaded with talent gets blown out by a rival in its own house.<br /><br />The comments above have summarized the problems on the floor with this team, and I agree with them all. There is no need to restate them here. What I will say is that Menzies does not have these guys playing hard. Is that his fault? Probably. But I'd also like to see the players man up and play the game with pride.<br /><br />Regarding Menzies future, I don't see the harm in firing him in mid-season. I say if McKinnes and/or Gillenwater come back and the Aggies still perform poorly, off with his head. Boston can get on the market for a new coach early if he takes bold action.<br /><br />By the way, is there anybody who believes Menzies should retain his job? If so, I would love to hear that argument. I sat in front of my computer for 20 minutes trying to come up with one justification for retaining Menzies. I'm a lawyer and I'm used to taking difficult stands, but for the life of me I cannot think of one good reason to keep this guy.SMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-66201831127617159082009-12-02T10:06:28.647-07:002009-12-02T10:06:28.647-07:00Doesn't look like it's going to be a good ...Doesn't look like it's going to be a good year for Aggie basketball-just what we need after an uninspiring football season-can't Coach Menzies light a fire under these players?-Tired of LosingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-46583471348693989562009-12-02T09:37:04.671-07:002009-12-02T09:37:04.671-07:00Do the Aggies have a mens basketball team? The on...Do the Aggies have a mens basketball team? The one that played last night sure looked like NMSU's football team.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-33358279632789120082009-12-02T09:15:17.561-07:002009-12-02T09:15:17.561-07:00Aggies made sportscenter, except
that it was for C...Aggies made sportscenter, except<br />that it was for Culpepper's steal and slam that landed the #3 spot on top plays. Oh they did manage to mention the final score. Way to make us proud guys. UGH!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com