tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post2570524902908052651..comments2023-03-22T09:16:14.682-06:00Comments on Basketball Diaries: Slumping offense leading to closer gamesJason Groveshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13865320061941648252noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-27259936119173399082012-02-06T19:36:26.256-07:002012-02-06T19:36:26.256-07:00I get tired of people describing anyone that doesn...I get tired of people describing anyone that doesn't praise Menzies as "fair-weathered fans." I'm 40 years old and grew up in Las Cruces and I have been a lifelong Aggie fan and I think Menzies is a horrible coach. I don't live in Las Cruces anymore but I still spend a small fortune traveling home to Las Cruces every year, using my vacation time from work on supporting Aggie athletics....the thing that really annoys me the most is the people that describe others as "fair weathered fans" are 19, 20 year old punks that aren't even natives of Las Cruces or NM for that matter. Most of you aren't even old enough to know what a real Aggie fan is. You can't even remember who was coach before Reggie Theus. You think because you spend a few bucks for a couple semesters of classes at NMSU that all of the sudden you are experts on NM State basketball and the tradition.<br /><br /><br />Anon 7:38 is 100% right and I am not a fair weathered fan!!<br /><br />RTAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-84794452443717096902012-02-03T08:38:27.973-07:002012-02-03T08:38:27.973-07:00Anon 9:05,
We do wish for more. Maybe the realit...Anon 9:05,<br /><br />We do wish for more. Maybe the reality is the team is what it is. Occasionally it wins the WAC or WAC tourney. Once in 10 years it makes to the NCAA tourney.<br /><br />Maybe its the football team that drives the desire for more. That team has been so bad for so long that even moderately bad is a breath of fresh air. Maybe our hopes are being raised because of the possibilities there...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-7315617858572088012012-02-02T09:05:06.948-07:002012-02-02T09:05:06.948-07:00My point was not that you should be happy with los...My point was not that you should be happy with losses or wins over bad teams (though we will be playing plenty of bad teams going forward just due to conference affiliation, and I'd rather beat them than lose to them) but that our performance under Menzies is entirely in line with what would be expected given the resources available. <br /><br />Of course, we can always hope for more as basketball fans, and we could even move forward with a new coach hoping for that next-level performance, but when one compares basketball expenditures with winning, the clear suggestion is that we are looking at a 10-15% chance that the next coach is better, a 30-40% chance that the next coach is worse, and 35-40% chance that the results are essentially the same.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-13953173701408002392012-02-02T08:23:07.702-07:002012-02-02T08:23:07.702-07:00Anon 1:56 last year's record 16-17, and next y...Anon 1:56 last year's record 16-17, and next year will be without Wen too. So, should I expect a losing season next year too?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-135284305984309012012-02-01T20:28:12.571-07:002012-02-01T20:28:12.571-07:00Anon 1:56,
Twenty-one points ought to be enough f...Anon 1:56,<br /><br />Twenty-one points ought to be enough for anybody.<br /><br /> -Bill Gates<br /><br />Was last year a losing season (w/o Wendell). Was it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-22471088480347151612012-02-01T20:22:23.297-07:002012-02-01T20:22:23.297-07:00Anon 7:38,
Opposing coaches don't even have to...Anon 7:38,<br />Opposing coaches don't even have to watch film. What are you doing detailing how to beat the Aggies on the internets (mispelling intended)? Google "Shatner" and "1986 SNL Host." <br />How much is it worth to have Tony Freaking Delk sitting on the good guys bench?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-14265300110665364462012-02-01T16:59:39.276-07:002012-02-01T16:59:39.276-07:00Oh, Anon 1:41 has spoken.
When you can back up ...Oh, Anon 1:41 has spoken. <br /><br />When you can back up your words, come back. Otherwise, the Aggies are what they are, underachievers with a coach who can recruit but can't coach.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-31646305290256310652012-02-01T13:56:51.741-07:002012-02-01T13:56:51.741-07:00So I guess I should be satisfied with beating bad ...So I guess I should be satisfied with beating bad teams and rarely beating good teams. Because you know... you get what you pay for. <br /><br />The problem with anon 1:24's logic is this. The hope was that at "bargain" price Marvin could take that next step. I think it is now clear that won't happen. So, it is time to try to find that bargain guy that will eventually take that next step because 5 years in we are still the same poorly coached team.<br /><br />I realize we can't go get a high priced coach, but settling for a guy that has proven he can't take the program to the next level makes no sense. Time to move on to the next guy. And yes I realize there is no money for a buyout, but for the life of me I cannot figure out why Marvin got a 1 year extension following last year's losing season!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-29695364464332128602012-02-01T13:41:40.199-07:002012-02-01T13:41:40.199-07:00Just like the cancer that Kabango was, we have alo...Just like the cancer that Kabango was, we have alot of fair weather fans that are cancer. Kabango is gone now you cancer negative fans be gone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-79944983175901596572012-02-01T13:24:52.500-07:002012-02-01T13:24:52.500-07:00Using the RPI opponent figures above, it appears t...Using the RPI opponent figures above, it appears that we are better (over the last 5 years) than almost all of the 200+ squads, better than about 60% of the 100-200 squads, and only successful about 30% of the time against teams 100 or better. I would guess that our peers, those we are roughly equal with performance-wise cluster in the 80-120 range. So Aggie basketball is somewhere around a top 100 program. From the most recent data, we spend 2.5M on basketball, good for 108th in the country. It appears we are getting what we pay for. Imagine that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-8744980396429418852012-02-01T11:40:11.054-07:002012-02-01T11:40:11.054-07:00Big Al,
vs. RPI 1-100 14-41
vs. RPI 101-200 25-19...Big Al,<br /><br />vs. RPI 1-100 14-41<br />vs. RPI 101-200 25-19<br />vs. RPI 201-300 30-4<br />vs. RPI 301+ 16-0<br /><br />First, of all one can build a "good" RPI by playing a bunch of good teams, but losing to them all. Yup, 15-7 with wins against a bunch of bad teams. Beat the Lobos, UTEP, and Utah St. and haven't beaten anyone else of merit this year (and UTEP and Utah St. have an RPI of 155 and 143, hardly good). And from the stats above good wins are few and far between. <br /><br />The bottom line is that Menzies has a winning record because he beats a lot of bad teams, but flops 75% of the time against good teams.<br /><br />Maybe, Marvin will be prepared for the zone he will face tonight. I doubt it though because the previous 2 games he wasn't.<br /><br />Did I substantiate it enough for you?<br /><br />KevinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-89830617886977700862012-02-01T08:29:14.022-07:002012-02-01T08:29:14.022-07:001. Missed free throws 2. Poor outside shooting. ...1. Missed free throws 2. Poor outside shooting. 3. Turnovers. <br /><br />Do two of three and the games will be close. Do three of three and you are going to lose most all of your games.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-66639726265686631752012-02-01T07:49:19.697-07:002012-02-01T07:49:19.697-07:00Anons 7:38 and 10:14, I am tired of this unsubstan...Anons 7:38 and 10:14, I am tired of this unsubstantiated crap you continue to throw out. Last night Michigan State could not run any set plays, mostly because they were missing Green for most of the game, and we are missing two players. Perhaps that game was not on your cable, but it was on mine. You also state that NMSU basketball is squandering a million dollars a year. Back up these figures or shut up. Sign your rants as well. You also speak like the Aggies have not won any games, check it out they are 15-7 with a good RPI. I am just tired of these inaccuracies and poor posts. <br />Big AlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-761264129332218342012-02-01T07:10:41.733-07:002012-02-01T07:10:41.733-07:00AMEN!!!AMEN!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-88706347378340936242012-01-31T22:14:47.435-07:002012-01-31T22:14:47.435-07:00Anon 7:38 - Couldn't have said it better! Anyo...Anon 7:38 - Couldn't have said it better! Anyone who sees it differently isn't paying attention or doesn't know much about basketball.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3319260418553490797.post-78297651211166551072012-01-31T19:38:19.266-07:002012-01-31T19:38:19.266-07:00"We emphasize not running a set or offense.&q..."We emphasize not running a set or offense." --T. Watson<br /><br />No kidding. It's cringe-inducing watching this team stand around and run nothing that resembles an offense. I'm sure that on Saturday, Coach Lou Henson sat on the Aggies' bench wondering, "This guy makes more than twice the salary I ever made with NMSU? He hasn't taught them to run basic offensive sets because he's convinced they can run off other teams' mistakes? Are you kidding me? In order to do that, you have to teach your team to force the opponent into taking a bad shot, throwing a bad pass, or to be in position to run off of their miss. This $400,000-a-year-coach thinks he has the bigger team therefore the better team. This is not a great coach."<br /><br />Tonight there are about a dozen of televised NCAA basketball games broadcast (on my cable package, at least). Tune in to any of those games and watch how every team runs different offensive sets. Passing, screening, movement without the ball. If you were watch closely, you'd see that some teams run sets so as to position players for better opportunities at the offensive rebound.<br /><br />Compare the sets you'll see tonight from the likes of Air Force, UNM, Vanderbuilt, Arkansas, Michigan State, and the University of Northern Iowa against those offensive (pun intended) sets of the NMSU Aggies. There is no comparison. The Menzies-coached squad doesn't run an offense. <br /><br />Here. I'll prove it to you. The next Aggie you watch, simply train your eyes on Bandja Sy when he's in the game. He'll occupy the left side of the floor. And that's it for his responsibility. The only real action is a high ball-screen.<br /><br />Now, if you're on the opposing team's coaching staff and you have NMSU upcoming on your schedule, putting together a game-plan ain't exactly rocket surgery (I meant to mix my metaphors). You'd cause all sorts of confusion for this Menzies-led team, if you showed a man defense and feel into a zone. If Watson's in the game, you dare him to shoot; the same holds true for everyone else but LaRoche and McKines.<br /><br />Again, I'm not here to dishearten the kids. They play very hard and genuinely seem like they want more from their coaching staff. But I've watched Menzies' teams over these last four and a half years, and once the transition game is tempered, they are hard-pressed to score baskets. For YEARS now, his teams look like a group of guys who met a couple of hours before the game, hand out uniforms, and decide who will start and who'll come off the bench. That is, they look like taller versions of the players you'd find participating on the intramural squads. <br /><br />I hope other people grow tired of Menzies and his highly paid staff robbing the taxpayers of New Mexico of close to a million dollars annually.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com